Cthulhuback Mountain

[Kyle]

Bad, bad, very, bad. I have seen about every Lovcraft or Lovecraft rip-off movie. I'm a mythos fan. But it looks like Hollywood plans to give Cthulhu the Brokeback Mountain treatment. Start scapeing off you Elder Party bumper stickers boys.

Read the horror:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=23128

[punkrabbitt]

So what if it involves gay sexuality? That doesn't ruin Cthulu, just makes it more approachable t' those o' us with lots o' gay buckos

[Kyle]

I am not anti-gay. I 'm sure I'll see this movie when it comes out. The problem is that if they use Cthulhu as the name of the flick, all joe average will remember is Cthulhu is a gay.

[Vaxillus]

I have to say I agree with Kyle a bit. While I don't have any problems with gays and lesbians (I have a good friend who is homosexual) in films or otherwise, and in fact would like to see more of it, I think cramming some gay activism into a movie based off a well established franchise that has nothing to do with such activism is a little bit pretentious on the part of the directors. How many Lovecraft fans are going to come to this movie hoping to see some pro-gay rights movement? I'm still gonna watch it (assuming the movie itself is good, of course) but I think what should really be a plain old horror movie will just be complicated by the additional themes. It's almost like taking Lord of the Rings and adding some sort of pro or anti semetic content. Basically what I am trying to say is that, depending on how far they take the activism, it could be untrue to the source material and either let down or drive away some fans.

[DarkHost]

WTF are "gay buckos"?!?

[Sharae]

I'm bi, I love Lovecraft, I don't like the idea of overshadowing the greatness of his stories with some stupid PC theme.

If they are going to make a movie based on a story of his it should be true to the story and have some goddamn respect for the writer. He is dead, that means we should have some respect for him, not take advantage now he can't do anything about it (something else that pisses me off).

I am so sick of people going around applying whatever theme is trendy to everything. What next, Biblical stories with black lesbian midgets, just to show 'how open minded we all should be'...? That has nothing to do with being open minded. Open minded is being able to accept these things are there without it being shoved down everybodies throat...

Who cares if the main character is gay? In the origional story he could have been for all I know (and I have read it), but because he isn't mincing around singing in a high pitched voice and shagging every guy he comes across it probably wouldn't be obvious enough for Hollywood.

[Jordan]

WTF are "gay buckos"?!?

You use them at gay stores to purchase gay goods

[DA_Magpie]

Ok, I'm going to say this carefully.
Lovecraft was a very bigoted man. From all I've heard he did not like the boys who like boys very much at all. In his day this was a commonly accepted viewpoint. Now (thankfully) its not.
But does this affect the quality of his writing? Not one bit.
So why do I get the feeling that his work is being relabelled.

[Sharae]

[quote=Magpie]So why do I get the feeling that his work is being relabelled.

[Ochaye Beers]

Besides, I agree there is an agenda, not even necisarrily a political one
I dunno, Hollywood is a one party state. You're not likely to find opposing political views in anything Hollywood-esque.

Welocome to PC, the creeping dictatorship.

[xeoran]

I have to admit upon reading the title of this thread i was having weird mental images of Cthulu in a cowboy hat and tentacles.... :shock:

Agreed, this seems like they are making more out of the homosexuality than the Cthulu. And of course there will be at least one bad gay sex scene (its obligatory....). Thing is these films always end up bigoted themselves because rather than having a restrained, or just plain normal gay guy the homosexuality will be rammed in your face at every moment.

I thinks its very perceptive that they are trying to de-bigot Lovecraft...but why, most authors were generally homophobic...because thats what soceity preached then. I dont get it, its just like the Crusades, applying modern day morality to things that just dont come withing that.

Still, its got Cthulu, fanboy time! :D

[Agustine Nunez]

Cogswell explained how the "latitude of the horror genre" and the "huge metaphors" that other horror films have exploited will allow the film to take on even broader themes, from suburban sprawl to free-floating anxiety about politics in this country.


Hum...well did everyone see "Dagon", that was a decent H.P. Lovecraft based flick. :D It could work I guess as long as the special effects are good....horror/SCI-FI does allow for many and varied themes...Oh "From Beyond" another good one. I always wanted to see a screen version of "Whispers in the Dark".... :)

[DA_Magpie]

It could work I guess as long as the special effects are good

I would disagree there. Special effects should be an added extra and I've seen way to many films that relied on them. Not that a few good explosions/genuinely scary monsters

[Kyle]

I have Lovecraft's publlished letters. He was a racist and xenophobic to boot. The guy had issues. I still like his stories.

I hate it when a director starts of with something like "I am not really into horror BUT" This sort of thing happened with Blair Witch II. "We'll we hated the first movie so we'll do the second one right"

[DA_Demorney]

It's a darn shame that we have so few good lovecraft flics, totally different style than, well, Mr King, but same problem - you can't transfer those narratives towards the screen easily.

I'd say I have no problem with gays in it (not in the movie and not in real live), this can be done cleverly like in "the Mexican". After all humanity is weak and easily manipluated in mind and body, at the whim of the dark gods, so does it matter for the mythos whether sex is able to produce offspring?

[Agustine Nunez]

[quote]I would disagree there. Special effects should be an added extra and I've seen way to many films that relied on them. Not that a few good explosions/genuinely scary monsters

[Ochaye Beers]

Too many people apply modern standards to the past. All you get is a meaningless distortion.

[Sharae]

I hate it when a director starts of with something like "I am not really into horror BUT" This sort of thing happened with Blair Witch II. "We'll we hated the first movie so we'll do the second one right"

/agree

I am so sick of films being done by people who don't like/care about the origin of what they're making that much. You can always tell. Most computer game to movie type films have been done by people who never played or liked the games. It makes no sence.



I have Lovecraft's publlished letters. He was a racist and xenophobic to boot. The guy had issues. I still like his stories.


I always focused on his mythos myself.... but I can't say I'm surprised by the above look at the time frame, not saying it's an excuse but if we look at the context of things his attitudes and bias make sense, any characters that were not well educated always appeared in bad light - ignorance was always a key element in his stories... :o

Doesn't suprise me at all he was this way, but he doesn't try to force the issue in his stories, so I don't really mind. Unlike with this movie...

[gunslinger]

i would like to see some old movies redone, but without the producer being able to touch the original content.. the over acting of the past is sometimes what makes the movie better for me.. just wish the monsters were more believable..

[Racel]

This is not qa good thing. I would love a good Lovecraft movie, but doing it with a PC agenda is like remaking a John Wayne film with a theme like Brokeback Mtn. Just not something most John Wayne fans want to see and definately not something I think most Lovecraft fans have in mind either. If people want a good Gay flick, go rent the The Wedding Banquet , at least its worth a few laughs.

I just got my wife to listen to "The Call of Cathulu" while she was on a cruise with her mom. She had my MP3 player and the audio bookl of the Devinci Code would not work, so she listened to Lovecraft to drown out her mom (who is much like a Lovecraft monster I might add). This is not what I need to get her to listen to or reed other Lovecraft works.

Oh well, Hollywood destroys everything it touches, just look at what it did to the X-Men . . . . . . . (Yah, the movie is OK, but they really screwed up the characters!).

Jeff

[Shinobi]

I just got my wife to listen to "The Call of Cathulu" while she was on a cruise with her mom. She had my MP3 player and the audio bookl of the Devinci Code would not work, so she listened to Lovecraft to drown out her mom (who is much like a Lovecraft monster I might add). This is not what I need to get her to listen to or reed other Lovecraft works.


"The Call of Kthulhu" is a much better listening pleasure!!!



Oh well, Hollywood destroys everything it touches, just look at what it did to the X-Men . . . . . . . (Yah, the movie is OK, but they really screwed up the characters!).

Never have truer words been spoken.

X-Men (great comics, average films, mostly poor casting)
U-571 (complete corruption of the truth - it was the British who did this in WW2, not the US... grrrrrrr..... http://www.heresyminiatures.com/phpbb/images/smiles/icon_punch.gif)
All Stephen King movies (superb books, sucky films)
All Tom Clancy movies (superb books, average films)
Timeline (great book, sucky film)
LOTR (yeah, a good set of films, but too much left out!)
etc
etc
etc

[gunslinger]

X-Men (great comics, average films, mostly poor casting)
U-571 (complete corruption of the truth - it was the British who did this in WW2, not the US... grrrrrrr..... http://www.heresyminiatures.com/phpbb/images/smiles/icon_punch.gif)
All Stephen King movies (superb books, sucky films)
All Tom Clancy movies (superb books, average films)
Timeline (great book, sucky film)
LOTR (yeah, a good set of films, but too much left out!)
etc
etc
etc

shinobi's a critic.. lol.. stephen king himself has said his movies will never reach the level of impression as his books. the personal mind is a better caster of characters than any movie producer.. and tom clancy never wanted his books on film, but his organization did, so each of these great authors was pummeled into doing it.. and tolkein, books, he has the same problem as stephen kings admitted to having and that is trying to force his vision of things on people by being overly descriptive..

i love a good stephen king book. the movies i can stand, but don't ever, ever, ever by an audio book that stephen king is the actual reader. his voice just destroys the whole thing..

[Ochaye Beers]

"The Call of Kthulhu" is a much better listening pleasure!!!

Damn straight.