Worldworksgames terrain for DA Games

[Shinobi]

Was looking at some of this companies products for Modern Skirmish (Dogs of War) and Zombie gaming (Stevie B's Zombie Munchkins vs Kev W's Zombie Hunter family!!), and found something that may work for DA terrain.

http://worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=30


It was designed for another game system, but looking at the bits, I think many of the items (maybe not the vehicles, control panels etc) could very well fit into Samaria settings.

Even their Cave products may be suitable for underground gaming.

A DA oriented set would be even better!!!!! :P

What do ya'll think?

[m0nk3yb0y]

It's funny that you posted this, because I was just thinking about this reading through the fluff in Exodus about the desert.

I have mars station and am quite active over on the WorldWorks forums. It's a great community that shares a lot of similarities with this one in that the creators are very involved with the community.

The only problem with the mars station set is the height of the walls. It's made for 28mm, but I think it's meant to look like mass produced sciencey buildings, which could work well for Dark Age, but the figures might look a little wonky next to it. I highly recommend the set though because it's highly modular and looks great, but it can be a bit finicky to put together. I'll try to take some pictures when I get home from vacation.

Like I mentioned on the Infinity forums, Denny, the proprieter of WWG, is very open to suggestions and listening to the community so let him know if you want to see something. It wouldn't hurt if the DA guys would talk to Denny about some DA specific stuff. :wink:

[Vaxillus]

Owch! That web design hurts my brain!

Looks good from what little I could bear to search for. Not a fan of Carboard terrain though, I'd rather make my own.

[Shinobi]

I also much prefer to make my own terrain, and I know that Art-de-Vivre does as well................ he has all the Hirst Moulds, and I own quite a number as well, but this stuff appeals to my brain rather than my heart.

Time

Time


Time is the problem. I hardly have time to paint as many figures as I'd like, much less cast moulds and build stuff as much as I'd want.

This stuff looks cheaper, easier, and faster.

No, its not as good as the more 'substantial' terrain pieces made from plaster or wood, but it does appeal on other levels. It also looks pretty nice!

Trouble is that I'm tempted to get so many of their packs.........


@ m0nk3yb0y - some pictures of the stuff with DA miniatures would be extremely useful, to gauge its suitablility.

Mars Station and Platform Command may combine nicely as well.

I think it is certainly something for Grafter and the Krew to think about...... getting a set of DA terrain produced this way. Wouldn't hurt to find out about the costs involved!

[m0nk3yb0y]

I wouldn't discount paper terrain so quicly. :P If it has good geometry and textures it can be quite nice. All of the newer WWG stuff has been amazing. Their textures are done in 200 dpi and the detail is really amazing. The other nice thing about paper terrain is that replacing it won't cost you anything more than printing a few pieces of paper.

[dragonlady]

I was just pointed to http://www.crescent-root.com/index.htm Cresent-Root!

For human desert terrian is looks excellent for Forsaken towns:

http://crescent-root.com/images/25mm28mm/28_1/28abcd1/28pic2.jpg

I expect when I get back from Gencon this fall will pick up several peices to add to my Miniature Building Authority Middle eastern themed buildings!

D.

[Pr0fane]

<shhh> We're actually a few steps ahead of you guys on the WWG stuff. Need-to-know basis. :twisted:

dragonlady; those are some pretty cool looking buildings. Me likey.

[m0nk3yb0y]

Hmm, I wonder if this is the "new developements" Denny was talking about being a reason for delaying the news letter.

[Wayne Rogers]

I was just pointed to http://www.crescent-root.com/index.htm Cresent-Root!

For human desert terrian is looks excellent for Forsaken towns:

http://crescent-root.com/images/25mm28mm/28_1/28abcd1/28pic2.jpg

I expect when I get back from Gencon this fall will pick up several peices to add to my Miniature Building Authority Middle eastern themed buildings!

D.

Ha! I was just about to post that link too! I want these for a Forsaken outpost.

What would the Skaard be living in?

[Shinobi]

<shhh> We're actually a few steps ahead of you guys on the WWG stuff. Need-to-know basis. :twisted:

Dude, I need to know :D

Don't wanna spend precious money on alternates if a official one will be out soon. At least give some kind of time-schedule.......... and pictures, and free sample downloads for Outcasts........

[Shinobi]

What would the Skaard be living in?

Sin???

Right up to their necks in sin methinks! :twisted:

[Osiris]

hmmmm I mean if it's a 'need to know' thing they how can we tell if we need to know unless we already know and then can make a decision based on the facts?

I concurr with my associate perhaps some pics and time tables would help us determine our needs a lil bit more :twisted:

Cheers,

Osiris

[mooseyjoe]

I like card stuff, you just have to remember not to mix your terrain. A card building next to a "real" building always seems to llok bad. But if you can put out a whole lot of card, and limit the "real" stuff, it can look really good.

[Vaxillus]

What would the Skaard be living in?
Tents from what I understand, they're nomadic after all. Some old and abondonded building from before the fall would work as well. Of course, why would you have terrain for the Skarrd? There the ones who'll be doing the raiding :P .

[DA_Demorney]

For my part I would love to have a Dendrobate setting ;)

[DA_Magpie]

What would the Skaard be living in?
Tents from what I understand, they're nomadic after all. Some old and abondonded building from before the fall would work as well. Of course, why would you have terrain for the Skarrd? There the ones who'll be doing the raiding :P .

We don

[DA_Demorney]

Barbarians at the gate

[Pr0fane]

hmmmm I mean if it's a 'need to know' thing they how can we tell if we need to know unless we already know and then can make a decision based on the facts?
LOL. Good try, Osiris. Here's a summary...those guys with the "DA_" in front of their names will determine who are on the "need to know" list.

[gunslinger]

hmmmm I mean if it's a 'need to know' thing they how can we tell if we need to know unless we already know and then can make a decision based on the facts?

I concurr with my associate perhaps some pics and time tables would help us determine our needs a lil bit more :twisted:

Cheers,

Osiris

pics and time tables are only for those in the know .. and those that need to know are the ones they send out to kill the miscreants to try to know too much.. there i said it.. lol.. oh and playtesters are just cannon fodder to be thrown in front of the masses .. trust me.. :shock:

[Galyn]

I have the WorldWorks Arena set.

It is one of their older sets, and I hear they have gotten even better. But, the set was VERY well designed. Very modular, goes together very easily, and comes out quite strong for card-stock. (My test was to drop a pewter Treebeard from 18" ontop of a collesium stand, and it didn't break.

Paper, however, does have a short shelf life. Especially if you transport it. For personal use, in the home, you can make them last years. But, drag them to the LGS a few times, or leave them there for a weekend, and suddenly they are all falling apart.

Specific to WorldWorks: They put their logo on every page. In one sense, I don't blame the, but it blows through your red ink. People who own a copy of full Acrobat will want to cut this off the pages before printing.

[Racel]

I was just pointed to http://www.crescent-root.com/index.htm Cresent-Root!

For human desert terrian is looks excellent for Forsaken towns:

http://crescent-root.com/images/25mm28mm/28_1/28abcd1/28pic2.jpg

I expect when I get back from Gencon this fall will pick up several peices to add to my Miniature Building Authority Middle eastern themed buildings!

D.

YOUR ALL EVIL!!!!! I have been staring all morning at these and I could not help myself. I will hopefully be getting a big box of stuff in the mail soon, but neither I nor my wife (when she finds out) are happy about it. Posting things like this should be a crime. Some of us have no willpower and can't take looking at such things. I own far too much stuff now. I have no idea where I will put more, but I guess I will have too since there are a bunch of new buildings coming. PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU POST!!!! Not doing so causes others on the forum to suffer needlessly (well, at least we are happy til our signifigant others find what we have done).

Well, since my wife is enjoying 5 weeks in Hawaii, I guess I am entitled to something, but she is still going to be unhappy with me.

Oh well. Just have to wait for them to come now so I can paint them.

Jeff

[Pr0fane]

Jeff, the first step in curing this illness is admitting to it. You're on the road to wellness.


...or not.

[Vaxillus]

Don't worry Racel, I suffer from the same illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a cure besides being on a college student budget. Of course, if it weren't for the fact that I neither drink nor gamble, I'd have starved long ago.

[Racel]

Don't worry Racel, I suffer from the same illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a cure besides being on a college student budget. Of course, if it weren't for the fact that I neither drink nor gamble, I'd have starved long ago.

Well, I don't drink, gamble, smoke, use non-presription drugs, do not abuse prescription drugs, kicked my Mt. Dew habit, swore off computer games and am generally boring and uninteresting other than my addiction to gaming. If I could just kick my gaming addiction, I would have a ton of cash in the bank. Not to mention I would also likely be certifiable. On that note, I think I will go have a Mt. Dew with vodka and Sour Apple Mix and do some reading before bed. Nothing like Caffine and Vodka (well, I drink on occation, but less than once a month and today sounds like a good day to break a few rules).

Night all,

Jeff

[Racel]

Jeff, the first step in curing this illness is admitting to it. You're on the road to wellness...or not.

Can you actually explain to me what it would mean to "Get well"? I am not sure what that translates to in the real world. I would guess it means ordering no more in pewter than I can (and will ) paint before ordering more and to limiting my boardgame collection to only ordering new games when we have actually opened and played the current ones at least three times.

My wife would likely define it as a giant fire sale on Ebay until non of my gaming stuff remains in the house (well accept for damn "Party games"). This would make her very happy. I will make sure she advertises the sale here if it ever happens since you would all be great Ebay shoppers (and so you can warn me in time to stop all my stuff from being sold). The look on her face when she realized that conventions like Warfair have flee market tables where you can sell your extra game stuff (or all of it) was rather scary.

Now, more drinking and reading so that I can have nightmares about my addiction and being cured by a giant Ebay game sale . . . . .

Jeff

[dragonlady]

YOUR ALL EVIL!!!!! I have been staring all morning at these and I could not help myself. I will hopefully be getting a big box of stuff in the mail soon, but neither I nor my wife (when she finds out) are happy about it. Posting things like this should be a crime. Some of us have no willpower and can't take looking at such things. I own far too much stuff now. I have no idea where I will put more, but I guess I will have too since there are a bunch of new buildings coming. PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU POST!!!! Not doing so causes others on the forum to suffer needlessly (well, at least we are happy til our signifigant others find what we have done).

Well, since my wife is enjoying 5 weeks in Hawaii, I guess I am entitled to something, but she is still going to be unhappy with me.

Oh well. Just have to wait for them to come now so I can paint them.

Jeff

So what all did you buy???

Did you go with Painted or Unpainted?

If painted which color did you choose??

You will have to provide us a review after you receive it!!

D.

[Racel]

So what all did you buy???

Did you go with Painted or Unpainted?

If painted which color did you choose??

You will have to provide us a review after you receive it!!

D.

You know, its against my better judgement to answer this since at some point it may cause others to slide down the same slippery slope as myself, but then, misery loves company!

I ordered 2 of the largest two story building, one of the large buildings without the second story and two of each of the other buildings. Seven buildings total and all of the unpainter variety since I am perfectly able to paint them myself (also that menat more buildings). It cost around $152 with shipping. Thats far better than what I had thought about spending with the Miniature Building Authority for a lot more buildings. I figure that I cam make some of the other scenery I need myself and just bought a rather large mat cutting device to help cut foamcore to make some buildings. So one of these days I should have a good size town to go with the two ruined cities I own.

I will give you a review when they show up, but I did notice from their other lines that they tend to sell out and don't restock right away. Figured that would also help when I explain to my wife why I bought all of this stuff right away. Sounds better than I saw it and wanted it so bad I was shaking . . . . . turth never sounds as good as fiction . . . . :wink:

Jeff

[Shinobi]

It cost around $152 with shipping. Thats far better than what I had thought about spending with the Miniature Building Authority for a lot more buildings.

:shock: *gulp* :shock:



Got this reply from Denny (the big geezer at WWG), after asking about their next big release "ShadowCore":


Welcome aboard Shinobi. ShadowCore might not be what you think it is but hopefully we'll have something REALLY interesting and "dark" for you in the not too distant future

Of course, the next thing to wonder about is what the heck they are gonna be putting in the pack for DA............ Dragyri caverns, Skarrd desert outpost, Brood Genetic Research facility, Forsaken towns??......... so many options, and so many possibilities........ definitely something to keep our eyes open for :D

Whatever it contains, hopefully it'll be ready before December, so that we can use it for the next convention over here, GAMECON-2.

In the meantime, the "Mars Station" product is probably the best set for DA terrain so far.

[DA_Demorney]

Why don't ya ask who did the rough drafts of what should be in the DA package? :twisted:

Finally found the answer of how you can do suitable terrain projects - by having an undisturbed basement working room - and that's my very next terrain project.

second golden rule after including your kids into your terrain building activities ... ;)

[Shinobi]

Are you willing to let us know the design draft???

Were your kids involved in the design LOL???? :lol:

[DA_Demorney]

workroom or terrain?

lol

the trick is, I let my daughter do her own project paralell to mine - which she did under my tutelage ... so I did a smaller piece of less quality (using simpler materials and methods) for Winnie the Pooh figs, and a larger one for DA ... both will be shown in my "how to" article ;)

[Wayne Rogers]

What did he say?..."Winnie the Brood"? :shock: :twisted:

[DA_Demorney]

rofl

Yeah, baby, and of course "Mean Tiggerbean"

[m0nk3yb0y]

For anyone that can't wait for who knows how long for the World Works DA stuff, I just found out that PaperModels released their Desert Fortress set on RPG Now (http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=7434&src=papermodels.at). It's nowhere near the quality or versitallity of WWG stuff, but it should do for the time being for those that need desert buildings for cheap.

Edit: I guess there's also Desert Village (http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=7009&)

[Shinobi]

Don't know if its just me, but I am having serious issues with the WWG online store.

I can't confirm an order without being forced to take a PayPal account......

Now I was thinking of getting PayPal later, but I refuse to be forced to do anything I'm not ready for....


Just a word of warning. Hopefully the problem will be sorted out by the guys there, and I can then tell y'all about it.

If you wanna keep track of what's happening:

http://www.worldworksgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3018

[DA_Demorney]

strange, wait till Denny reacts, he will sort it out ...

[Shinobi]

I hope so coz I really wanna get some of this stuff. Denny sounds like a sorted bloke, so hopefully it'll all end up happy!

[DA_Demorney]

everything else would surprise me :)

[Shinobi]

Looks like I may have to try and get the stuff from RPGNow instead, the whole Paypal thing seems to be integrated into the WWG store..... shame since they could've made a bit more money from me buying direct :?

Will try the RPGNow store later after working hours............

[Shinobi]

:D Woohoo :D

The RPGNow order worked!!!

I am the proud owner of the Mars Station and Caveworks sets. Now to figure out how to get the printing done. Time to go shopping for a printer methinks!!!

Mars Station - will try and use for Skarrd terrain
Caveworks - will try and use for underground Dragyri terrain

Keep an eye out for some experiments whilst waiting for the Dark Age set to be finished by WWG

:wink:

[Galyn]

Right on. Here's a tip I started about half way through my Areana:

Print the pages.
*lightly* spray the reverse side with some heavy sandable primer
Then Cut, fold, glue as normal.

It only takes a minute or two, and adds tons of stability to the buildings. Those have held up head and shoulders above the unsprayed ones.

Also: Recommend switching to a new ink cartrage BEFORE you start. If you run out halfway through the project, and change cartrages, the new pages will have a slightly different tint. (With my printer anyway).

[Shinobi]

Print the pages.
*lightly* spray the reverse side with some heavy sandable primer
Then Cut, fold, glue as normal.

Hey, thats a great idea. Would a light spray of varnish work the same way?



Also: Recommend switching to a new ink cartrage BEFORE you start. If you run out halfway through the project, and change cartrages, the new pages will have a slightly different tint. (With my printer anyway).

Whoa, they would be uber-expensive!!! And, depending on which model printer I get, the cartridges are expensive down here. I would need to see roughly how many pages a cartridge would print first though, right? Then try and estimate pages per project .......... I see what you're saying, just that it could get expensive.




Couldn't wait until I got a printer, so last night, before going home, I printed out some of the Caveworks stuff on white paper in B&W. Got home, assembled what I had, and found it looked pretty good as an Ice Cavern. Maybe I could do a complete terrain board like this? No need for the rush to get a colour printer then................ The paper was flimsy as hell, but it still looked pretty neat.

[m0nk3yb0y]

If you're getting a new printer look into the newer models that have seperate cartridges for each color. Most tri-color cartridges have plenty of ink left after one color runs out. Saves a lot of money that way.

[Shinobi]

Searching through reviews now.

This looks promising:

Canon Pixma iP4200 (http://reviews.cnet.com/Canon_Pixma_iP4200/4505-3156_7-31457715.html?tag=sub)

[m0nk3yb0y]

Searching through reviews now.

This looks promising:

Canon Pixma iP4200 (http://reviews.cnet.com/Canon_Pixma_iP4200/4505-3156_7-31457715.html?tag=sub)

That's actually the one I have been planning on getting.

[Shinobi]

There's another one,

HP Photosmart 8250 (http://reviews.cnet.com/HP_Photosmart_8250/4505-3156_7-31413612.html?tag=sub)

that has good reviews but some comments from users say some really bad things about reliability and back up service.



Need to have a butchers at the local shops and see how much the Canon is............ and get some extra ink cartridges.............. then hunt for cardstock

[Galyn]

Whoa, they would be uber-expensive!!! And, depending on which model printer I get, the cartridges are expensive down here. I would need to see roughly how many pages a cartridge would print first though, right? Then try and estimate pages per project .......... I see what you're saying, just that it could get expensive.

Oh, missed the point that you were getting a new printer. That will have a new cartrage (cartrages) anyway. When I first got my set, my colour cartrage was nearly a year old, and probably 3/4 gone. I printed about 1/2 my project and had to replace it. Suddenly, there was a huge change in the appearance.

No worries. You should be able to print out more than you are willing to put together from a single ink load (I ended up with a 36" round arena, with double thick/double high stands. That was TONS of paper. And, I still have the same cartrage in my printer for the odd token / spray template screen i print.)

As for black and white, I've a few people post versions printed in B&W, and they all looked good. Especially, something cave like might give that cool low-light / ice look.

Enjoy! Watch out for knife blisters after all that cutting. :wink:

[Racel]

So what all did you buy???

Did you go with Painted or Unpainted?

If painted which color did you choose??

You will have to provide us a review after you receive it!!

D.

:bouncey: :bouncey: :bouncey: Happy Dance!!!! :bouncey: :bouncey: :bouncey:

My buildings from Cresent Root came today (along with a much sought after Humvee M1025!!!), so I am in a great mood!

First impressions:
The buildings are very well made. The resin is very light, but strong and durable for tabletop use. The worksmenship on the pieces (casting and bubbles) is great with no flash and no sanding needed. The size is what you would expect for smaller dwellings (have to remember that not everyone lives in an American sized house). No way a Dragyri or Brood is going to fit inside, but that was to be expected.

I would say that these buildings are a steal for the price, especially if you can paint them yourself. I don't see than as being as fragile as the Miniature Building Authorities stuff, and far cheaper, but they do not came aprt into ruins like the MBA stuff.

Overall, I am VERY VERY happy with them, but now I want more. Yes, it is an illness, and NO I do not want to seek help or treatment. Some people drink and do drugs, I am addicted to little soldiers and tiny buildings. Anyone have a problem with that? Thought not. Masako may think differently though . . . . .

Pictures maybe later tonight for scale to DA (and DDD stuff for Shinobi).

Later,

Jeff

[Wayne Rogers]

Coolness! I cant wait to see how you put them into scenery.

Do you think they woul;d fit with Skaard or is Forsaken the best fit for the style?

[Racel]

Coolness! I cant wait to see how you put them into scenery.

Do you think they woul;d fit with Skaard or is Forsaken the best fit for the style?

With some work to make them a little more DA, I think they would look more Skarrd than Forsaken. I think of Forsaken as using more leftover stuff from the old city and the Skarrd having to make their settlements from the terrain around them. I guess the Forsaken would also be stuck with natural materials if they are on the outskirts.

I will provide some scale pictures with Forsaken today or tomorrow.

Later,

Jeff

[Racel]

Here the pictures of the new buildings. As I said earlier, they are very nice!!!

The Military pictures include some Devil Dog Design Terrorists, a cheap M2 model I am working on and the much sought after Humvee (need more).

Let me know if you have questions (and NO I have not started painting the buildings . . . yet . . . . )

Jeff

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1964173Buildings1.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1964175Buildings2.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1964176Buildings3.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1964177Buildings4.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1964178Buildings5.jpg

[Pr0fane]

Wow. They look g-rrrrrr-eat! What are they made of?

[Wayne Rogers]

Wow. They look g-rrrrrr-eat! What are they made of?

I believe it is resin.

Jeff...is it the 'super-stinky' kind of resin? :insane:

[Kyle]

Yeah oK Dammit Jeff, you win! I neeeeed them! I will be picking up some of these. The big bedate in my mind was to get them prepainted or not. Cheapness will win out, I'm sure. :?

[Osiris]

Very nice pics to say the least. Love the paint jobs on some of those coils and Galob as well. Anychance of getting a close up of those figs? The city also has a really nice feel to it though its screaming for some Skarrd to be roaming the streets.

Looks stellar, have you decided on a paint scheme/look for the city?

Cheers,

Osiris

[Racel]

Very nice pics to say the least. Love the paint jobs on some of those coils and Galob as well. Anychance of getting a close up of those figs? The city also has a really nice feel to it though its screaming for some Skarrd to be roaming the streets.

Looks stellar, have you decided on a paint scheme/look for the city?

Cheers,

Osiris

Sorry, but I did not paint the Forsaken. They were purchased off a gamer that stopped playing DA. The Golabs are my handiwork, so I will see if I have some pictures. As far as color theme, they are going to end up Middle Eastern Tan since i need them for DA and modern military gaming.

Later,

Jeff

[Racel]

Jeff...is it the 'super-stinky' kind of resin? :insane:

Nope. Little to no smell and feels more like hard plastic than most resins.

Jeff

[Racel]

Yeah oK Dammit Jeff, you win! I neeeeed them! I will be picking up some of these. The big bedate in my mind was to get them prepainted or not. Cheapness will win out, I'm sure. :?

Kyle, this is revenge for all the tempting you did at Warfair over the MBA buildings. Payback is sweet! I say go unpainted. You can buy more and paint them how you want when you have time. More is always better . . . . . .

Jeff

[Kyle]

Oh, I'll paint them. I figured out the adobe building thing a while back. Generally speaking, the stuff people paint themselves looks better than pre-painted stuff.

I am tempted to paint Skarrd Graffitti all over but then the buildings can't do double duty. That's why I didn't put a bunch of wanted posters up on the stuff I already have.

Maybee I need to convert some Dark AQge civillians and salt nomads. OR I could just pester Grafter about civillian figures for the next four days. :twisted:

[Goliath]

Instead of putting up wanted posters on the walls, how about making some free-standing ones that could be strategically placed around the town?

[Racel]

Instead of putting up wanted posters on the walls, how about making some free-standing ones that could be strategically placed around the town?

I am thinking along these lines for some Arabic signs.

Jeff

[Kyle]

The attachable/detachable wanted posters is what I need to do. Maybee put them up with poster tac. I was thinking about some removable junk piles and tech stuff to put on the roofs to make them more sci-fi.

[Shinobi]

Well, I got my printer, a Canon Pixma iP4200. Just waiting for my IT guy to arrive and install the driver then I can take it home and try it out :D

[m0nk3yb0y]

Well, I got my printer, a Canon Pixma iP4200. Just waiting for my IT guy to arrive and install the driver then I can take it home and try it out :D

Let me know how it works for you. I'm either going to get the ip4200 or spring for a color laser sometime in the future.

[Racel]

Well, I got my printer, a Canon Pixma iP4200. Just waiting for my IT guy to arrive and install the driver then I can take it home and try it out :D

WHAT? You have to get an "IT" guy to install a driver for a printer? How hard can that be? I think all these underlings have made you weak of mind or lazy if you need someone else to install a printer driver. Next you will tell us that the "IT Guy" is a sexy girl . . . . .

Wondering about Ex-pat brits living overseas . . . . .

Jeff

[Shinobi]

Actually mate, my only computer I can use at home is my company laptop that requires administrators (company IT guys) to install anything. So I need them to install everything, including said printer drivers......... hence the lack of Armybuilder etc on my PC *sigh*

[Pr0fane]

Yeah, I had the same situation with my DND laptop. So I reinstalled the OS over top of the DND baseline. :twisted: I'll reformat before I return it and say I never used it. ;)

[Wayne Rogers]

WorldworksGames newsletter just anounced the existence of pre-development project for Dark Age Games! It looks like they have other cool stuff in the pipeline too.

But they are very concerned about the issue of piracy! Please remind everyone that copying PDF terrain from WWG is a sure way to put them out of business! We dont want that! As they said in the old days: "Dont copy that floppy!"

[Racel]

Actually mate, my only computer I can use at home is my company laptop that requires administrators (company IT guys) to install anything. So I need them to install everything, including said printer drivers......... hence the lack of Armybuilder etc on my PC *sigh*

OK, that makes sense. I was beginning to wonder about you and all that extra help. I still have admin rights on my PC, but most folks don't. Helps to keep friendly with the IT folks and not call them unless my PC completely craps out (been there, done that).

In regards to Wayne's comments, I am looking forward to the WWG stuff. Only a little concerned how the terrain will hold all the big DA minis. I have some of their stuff and while I like it, I would not want to place my larger Dragyri on it.

Will have to wait and see what they come up with.

Jeff

[Pr0fane]

Wayne, I browsed the site but cannot find how to get this newsletter...esplain loocy.

[m0nk3yb0y]

You get the newsletter when you sign up for the forum, it's in the users forum options I believe. Denny also posted it in the General section in his forums. I already commented in the thread. :)

[m0nk3yb0y]

Actually mate, my only computer I can use at home is my company laptop that requires administrators (company IT guys) to install anything. So I need them to install everything, including said printer drivers......... hence the lack of Armybuilder etc on my PC *sigh*

OK, that makes sense. I was beginning to wonder about you and all that extra help. I still have admin rights on my PC, but most folks don't. Helps to keep friendly with the IT folks and not call them unless my PC completely craps out (been there, done that).

In regards to Wayne's comments, I am looking forward to the WWG stuff. Only a little concerned how the terrain will hold all the big DA minis. I have some of their stuff and while I like it, I would not want to place my larger Dragyri on it.

Will have to wait and see what they come up with.

Jeff

In their newer stuff like Platform Command anything that's a long walkway or raised place where you'd be setting minis it is actually mounted on foam board. The roofs on mars station are also mounted on foam board. For stuff that doesn't have an interior that you're worried about it's easy to add some extra support underneath by using strips of foam board or something else that is sturdy.

[Racel]

In their newer stuff like Platform Command anything that's a long walkway or raised place where you'd be setting minis it is actually mounted on foam board. The roofs on mars station are also mounted on foam board. For stuff that doesn't have an interior that you're worried about it's easy to add some extra support underneath by using strips of foam board or something else that is sturdy.

Thanks, I have not seen the instructions for the newer stuff. Foamboard makes sense.

Jeff

[Racel]

I got the buildings painted, but not 100% happy. I should have made the exposed bricks a different color and should not have magic washed the pieces. The buildings were a medium brown worked up to a neutral tan before I got the idea in my head to do a Future Wash on them. Well, now its a lot darker. Might go back and lighten them up or wait and get some more in the future and do them lighter so all the houses don't look the same. The guys at Cresent Root also told me thay have some more pieces on the way later this month and more small buildings in the not too distant future.

Pictures when I get some time.

Jeff

[dragonlady]

Man, you are a machine!!! (Inspiring as well).

Good job!

[Racel]

Ok, since I had to work on buildings while trying to entertain the parrots and fighting sleep deprivation, they are not my best work. I still do not have the doors done (or even started), so they are not included. Still might lighten these up or make the brick stand out more, but will have to think about it some more. Still think the buildings rock and need more more more . . . . .

Jeff

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1967634BuildingsA.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1967635BuildingsB.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1967636BuildingsC.jpg

[Vaxillus]

Very nice! I wish I had the time and space (and money) for something like that. As far as the colors go, I'm no terrain painter but I'd recomend giving the bricks a darker red-brown wash and drubrushing the rest with a slightly lighter tan. Just my thoughts.

[gunslinger]

not all bricks under adobe are reddish// in fact some of them are jet black.. it depends on the clay/sand used in fabrication..

[Vaxillus]

True, but anything darker would work well nonetheless. Also, black bricks would add a bit too much contrast in my eyes.

[witchfire]

@Racel : for a tech look on these buildings you could get a couple of those
http://www.thewarstore.com/media/806j.jpg

they're scenic 40 mm base from epicast , you can place them on roofs
& when you need your buildings for a more ancient/medieval setting
you just dont add them

[Kyle]

Cool idea! I have been looking for some rooftop junk to add on some of the bigger adobe buildings that I have. I didn't want anything permanent. Those are perfect!

[DA_Grafter]

Damn you Jeff, stop showing me stuff that I need to buy... just for that I am gonna buy the unpainted version and head on to your house :twisted:

[Racel]

Damn you Jeff, stop showing me stuff that I need to buy... just for that I am gonna buy the unpainted version and head on to your house :twisted:

I may have to knock you over the head, roll the body down into the sea of ivy and keep all the buildings!!!

More seriously, we might be able to work that out, but how many buildings do I get to keep? :wink:

@Witchfire - thanks for the tip. I plan to build some wood shelters for the tops of the buildings using balsa and cardboard for metal sheeting. People in arid climates tend to sleep on the roof and build sshelters from the sun, so that will add some detail.

Jeff

[dragonlady]

So what all did you buy???

Did you go with Painted or Unpainted?

If painted which color did you choose??

You will have to provide us a review after you receive it!!

D.

You know, its against my better judgement to answer this since at some point it may cause others to slide down the same slippery slope as myself, but then, misery loves company!

I ordered 2 of the largest two story building, one of the large buildings without the second story and two of each of the other buildings. Seven buildings total and all of the unpainter variety since I am perfectly able to paint them myself (also that menat more buildings). It cost around $152 with shipping. Thats far better than what I had thought about spending with the Miniature Building Authority for a lot more buildings. I figure that I cam make some of the other scenery I need myself and just bought a rather large mat cutting device to help cut foamcore to make some buildings. So one of these days I should have a good size town to go with the two ruined cities I own.

I will give you a review when they show up, but I did notice from their other lines that they tend to sell out and don't restock right away. Figured that would also help when I explain to my wife why I bought all of this stuff right away. Sounds better than I saw it and wanted it so bad I was shaking . . . . . turth never sounds as good as fiction . . . . :wink:

Jeff

Well Jeff,

I'm following your lead now, I purchased 6 of the buildings (one of the small, 2 each of the medium and 1 of the big) for use with my 25/28 mm gaming. I think they will mix well with my MBA buildings I already have. In addition I picked up a set of their 15mm stuff to use with my FOW MBA buildings. Grand total only $179 with shipping, what a deal!!

Your experience so far is what convinced me to go with the unpainted and paint things myself!!

Dragonlady

[Racel]

Your experience so far is what convinced me to go with the unpainted and paint things myself!!

Dragonlady

I am confident you will be happy with the buildings. In regards to painting, these are easy to do. If I have to chose between having more buildings or having to paint them, then its an easy choice. More is always better! :D

Jeff

[Shinobi]

This thread has gone soooooooooooooo http://heresyminiatures.com/forumofdoom/Smileys/default/offtopic.gif

[dragonlady]

This thread has gone soooooooooooooo http://heresyminiatures.com/forumofdoom/Smileys/default/offtopic.gif

And here I thought the topic was terrain suitable for use with DA??

[Racel]

This thread has gone soooooooooooooo http://heresyminiatures.com/forumofdoom/Smileys/default/offtopic.gif

We have not mentioned Hitler yet. Oops, guess I just did.

Sorry Shinobi, but this is the DA Forum where all threads are hijacked and nothing stays on topic more than a few hours. We tend to like it this way. Sort of like "stream of consciousness" in literature. You write what you think as you think it with little or no puctuation or syntax. Only the ideas are important, not the way they are presented. Same here. We take threads where ever we want as the urge takes us. :wink:

Jeff

[Goliath]

This thread has gone soooooooooooooo http://heresyminiatures.com/forumofdoom/Smileys/default/offtopic.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/cybogoblin/GenCon06/DarkAge/puds.jpg

[Shinobi]

There's always space in any thread for Puds, Puds, Puds, Puds, Wonderful Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuds 8)

[Stunke]

Reminds me of that "food" song from Ice Age 2

[Shinobi]

Was trying for the Python "Spam" tune actually :twisted:

[dragonlady]

Ok, since I had to work on buildings while trying to entertain the parrots and fighting sleep deprivation, they are not my best work. I still do not have the doors done (or even started), so they are not included. Still might lighten these up or make the brick stand out more, but will have to think about it some more. Still think the buildings rock and need more more more . . . . .

Jeff



Jeff, I searched all through the thread and I didn't see you mention what colors/etc you used (except for the magic wash as the end).

So what did you paint these with?? Base color, dry brush color, etc???

Dragonlady

[Racel]

Jeff, I searched all through the thread and I didn't see you mention what colors/etc you used (except for the magic wash as the end).
So what did you paint these with?? Base color, dry brush color, etc???

Dragonlady

Sorry, I did not list any of that since I really did not use anything too special.

I spray painted the buildings with a New Rustolium Texture Paint that had a light sand/grit texture to it. The paint was dark brown and the terture really did not stand out much, but I will use it next time for doing rusted metal since I think it would be great for that application.

Next I used a mixture of Wal-Mart Craft Paints since I don't like using expensive paint for terrain. Collors were, Apple Barrel (AB) Caremal Candy, AB Country Tan, AB Toffee and Delta Creamcoat Train Tan.

They came out a nice light tan color until I did the future wash. I tend to forget (until it's too late) that Apple Barrel and Creamcoat paints are fairly flat and porous so they soak up the Future Wash and get much darker than some other glossier paints. I think I may go back over the buildings again with the Trail Tan, but have not done it yet. I like the darker color for Afganistan and wold prefer a lighter color for Iraq, so I may keep these as they are and do some more later in the lighter colors.

What do you think of the buildings? Happy with them or still prefer the MBA ones? I like these better for DA and certain Middle East settings where the area is less urbanized and more rural, but MBA ones work well for cities and large towns. Just a matter of taste.

Jeff

[dragonlady]

I actually think that the buildings will mix well together for a larger town. That is as long as I can get similar colors.

But if I had them on different tables of a tournament, then that will not even be an issue.

[Racel]

Well, my village has grown rather quickly. I just got a new box of buildings from Mark at www.crescent-root.com and my village now has a total of 16 buildings. I have 5 small, 5 medium, 4 large 1 story and 2 large two story. I also got a set of the new walls Mark is adding to this range, but they are going to be a few weeks out before he has them available to order. When i get the stuff at least primed, I will have to post a picture of all the buildings. Now I need to paint these and start adding details so they can be a little more interesting.

@ Kyle - I hope to get my modern stuff all together for Warfair in February, but regardless, if you want to run your wild west stuff, you can use my terrain along with yours for one heck of a nice western town. Might even be a blast to play with six-shooting bandits. Never done a gunslinger miniature game before.

Night,

Jeff

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/249115/1967635BuildingsB.jpg

[Osiris]

Dude,

I never get tired of looking at those pics.

Cheers,

Osiris

[punkrabbitt]

WorldWorks stuff is great... I have almost all of it, except for the spaceship one. The Mars Station stuff is a little indersized for DA, but if you have Acrobat you can use the snapshot tool to copy the piece you want, import it into a graphics program, and enlarge it. Also, for the wall sections, if you make them flat and not do the pop-out window things along the top, it increases the height. The doors still need a little work, though. I am building one of the Forsaken building showcased in one of the books (or on the web, or once upon a time, not sure, but I have the pic on my hard drive.) There's lots of fun tricks that can be done with this stuff if you use your imagination.

[dragonlady]

Jeff, are you still purchasing just the 25mm stuff or are you getting the 15mm for your wwii stuff also??


I also got a set of the new walls Mark is adding to this range, but they are going to be a few weeks out before he has them available to order. When i get the stuff at least primed, I will have to post a picture of all the buildings. Now I need to paint these and start adding details so they can be a little more interesting.

So you are talking with the designer directly versus just ordering online!!!

Now I am totally jealous, since I'm the one who posted these beautiful building first on the forum :( and I didn't get any preview stuff when I ordered from him!! :cry:

I have gotten a base coat on my buidlings and I'm hoping to get the bricks and tile roofs painted with my terra cota today so that I can ink/shade the buildings tomorrow.

dragonlady

[Racel]

So you are talking with the designer directly versus just ordering online!!!

Now I am totally jealous, since I'm the one who posted these beautiful building first on the forum :( and I didn't get any preview stuff when I ordered from him!! :cry:


Dragonlady, I was talking back and forth with him about when the new buildings were going to be available for the 28mm line and he mentioned that the walls were coming soon, but he was still working on them. Since he was waiting on resin and was trying to get the first set of master molds made for the walls, he offered a set if I was willing to delay my order while he waited for resin and finished the molds (so not exactly free preview . . . ). I agreed to wait. I think that once he gets the masters done, I will order more walls, but these are just shor enough you can fire over them in places and I would like to have some tall enough to do middle eastern compounds (need to be at least 8 feet high).

Seems like he is doing really well with this range and we can expect more things in the next few months. Mark said he was swamped with orders, so I guess the new 28mm buildings were a major hit.

I would say that I still like these for the price over MBA since I have a good size village for around $325 and I would have only a hand full of buildings for that from Kirk at MBA. Still, I want the Large Domed Building MBA is coming out with by year's end. Below is a picture of part of the MBA table setup at DragonCon for an Iraq game. The big building in the middle with a prayer tower is the one I really want. I will have to chatt with Kirk again at Warfair in February.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/102/102860/folders/251772/2006305MBABuildings.jpg

Jeff

[Saint Matthew]

Anybody purchased Monolith Designs terrain?

[Wayne Rogers]

My god...is that the one full of stars?

[Saint Matthew]

Huh?

[Wayne Rogers]

Huh?

hahaa! It was late,.. and I was thinking 2001- space odyssey :?

[Saint Matthew]

http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/

Brookhurst carries them in the US.

[Racel]

http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/

Brookhurst carries them in the US.

Their stuff looks nice, but I have not seen any of it in person. A little iffy on the scale since it lists 25mm rather than 28mm, and some "25mm" stuff is very small. Would need to see some of their stuff compared to a few standard miniatures to determine whether I would buy any.

Jeff

[dragonlady]

Well here are my first drafts at my Forsaken village:

http://www.gameavatar.org/DemoDays%20020.jpg

http://www.gameavatar.org/DemoDays%20021.jpg

http://www.gameavatar.org/DemoDays%20022.jpg

I included one building that I've only based with my Tan to show where the buildings started.

Dragonlady

[Galyn]

Nifty! Very effective look for (I assume) just two colours.

[dragonlady]

Steps were:

1. Prime

2. Spay paint Tan
3. Use a brown or Terra Cotta for Exposed bricks
4. Wipe Olympic Gel (from local Lowes) - color Cherry
Wipe off Gel with paper towels.

Doors were painted brown

5. Once all is dry, lightly dry brush on Egg Shell White to get the extreme edge hightlights and brighten up it all. (Doors and walls).

Its not up to Racel's work, but, hey....

[DA_Magpie]

Looks good. Looking forwards to seeing it in some battle pics!

[Racel]

Its not up to Racel's work, but, hey....

Not sure what you are talking about, I think they look great and the steps are very easy. I am a big fan of easy, especially fast and easy. I may have to steal some ideas from you on the rub-on, rub-off gel. That was a great idea for these that I had not really thought about. I remember it being promoted quite a bit on the Hirst Arts forum, but had not really given it a try. After seeing what you accomplished, I think I will have to do some experimenting.

I plan to add some details to mine so that they are not so plain. Lots of balsa wood and cardboard would bring these to like. Also been looking at ways to use texture paint, airbrush and sponging to get better rust effects on the metal pices and scrap I want to add.

Again, I think your stuff looks great, especially considering the fast and easy way you found to do them.

Jeff

[dragonlady]

Critiques for self:

1. Underlying bricks should be a starkly differing color than the overlying adobe. Once the gell goes over everything, the differences become much more muted.

2. I'm not quite sure I'm totally keen on the Redness of the Gell (Mahogany & cherry and the two I've experimented with so far, might try oak for more golden).

3. I am definately glad I picked up that 1 Quart Egg shell interior paint for a buck on the Lowes "bad Paint" table, it made a great dry brush paint for de-redding things :P .

4. The dry brushed doors look much more muted than I expected in the photos, in real life they are browner (like wood).

5. I still can pick out details later of the Iron slats that are holding the doors either with Boltgun metal, or Black Iron, or Rusted Iron.

Things I liked:

1. The gel did not leave things Glossy like other Dip methods I've used on models in the past, so did not require a "dulling" step in addition to other steps.

2. The buildings are table top quality playable now!


Dragonlady

[dragonlady]

First use of the new building in a tournament:

http://www.gameavatar.org/GMIOct06/BloodandRust%20041.jpg

http://www.gameavatar.org/GMIOct06/BloodandRust%20043.jpg

http://www.gameavatar.org/GMIOct06/BloodandRust%20032.jpg

They work very well for DA based sized miniatures!!!

WOOHOO!

Now I have to get more!!

[Stunke]

LEGION OF EVERBLIGHT!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You can never use that terrain for anything else now...
I'm sorry, but you are going to have to burn it all. Or send it to....


...


Malaysia, or something.

[Racel]

First use of the new building in a tournament:

They work very well for DA based sized miniatures!!!

WOOHOO!

Now I have to get more!!

The buildings look great! I looked at the various Gel stains this weekend after seeing how well they worked for you. I think maybe I would use a darker brown stain, but still you buildings look very nice.

Its an addiction! I did not start out thinking I needed a whole village of buildings, but now I have them. I would wait until later this month to order any more since the walls should be out shortly.

Jeff

[Shinobi]

LEGION OF EVERBLIGHT!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You can never use that terrain for anything else now...
I'm sorry, but you are going to have to burn it all. Or send it to....


...


Malaysia, or something.

Sounds good to me :D

The current Haze cr@p thats around at the moment should disinfect them enough to use them with proper games :twisted:

[Shinobi]

This thread should be moved to the spunky, new "Fields of Battle" section :wink:

[DA_Magpie]

For a moment there I thought the second pic was St Mark with a bow and a freaky looking dog. Don