Johann vs. John 500

[skrivanek]

So, last night Saint_Marc and I played a 500 point game. The board was fairly heavy on terrain, with lots of blocking buildings.

Saint_Marc had: St. Johann, Grafter, Warwind w/ +1 move, 2 x Bane w/+1 Armor and Berserk.

I used: St. John, 1 Coil, 1 Coil Leader, 3 x Faithful, 1 x Sister of Compassion


He moved up his WW and shot and killed a Coil, my Coil Leader put a wound on the WW

I just moved everything else up.

Next turn, I crit the WW with St. John (I think) to finish it off, all the melee troops on both sides moved into charge range

Turn 3, he charged Johann into John, doing one wound (Johann only has 3 AP) - and thank GOD for the Power Shield. 4 attacks in CC on the charge is damn scary. Of course, the next attack, John suffered a MAL on the PS, but saved the wounds.

I numbed Johann with the sister, then charged in a faithful (I lost one of my faithful to a Bane). Between the faithful and John, another wound went onto Johann and Johann lost an AP from the Stun ability of the FF

My other FF killed a bane and then it was mop up.

A very fun game. We decided a Johann + WW in 500 is probably WAY too many points. I know Marc will be along to post a revised list - maybe we'll give it a shot tonight.



Aaron

[gunslinger]

Johann and a warwind in 500 isn't so bad.. But johann, warwind and grafter in 500 will definately set you back ..

I'd either take the warwind and some troops, possible go heavy forsaken. Or, I'd take a grafter and go heavy skarrd..

It's a personal choice, but I know the two armies I am looking at is with a warwind and forsaken heavy or grafter and skarrd heavy. hmm, I wonder what bolo models would look like with coil discs? hmmmm...

[Saint_Marc]

Todays lesson;

One big guy on his own will dies a horrible death to 3 or more not so big guys.

So, yes St Johann is a bad ass, but like most things, he still needs support. I think a better 500 point list would have been

St johann - 200
2 harpies - 66
2 coils - 90
2 strikes - 140

496 points

I found that the grafts on the warwind was nice, but adding 30 points of grafts to a 40 point model with one wound was not so smart. I think that giving grafts is something for a larger force build total.

As Aaron said it was a fun game, and I loved seeing St Johann in action. I am looking forward to trying a 750 point force so he can have more support.

[gunslinger]

that's a great set up.. one I was thinking of too.

I have seen others use a grafter to fix up the strikes.. (I think to let them move further/faster..) but then they lose the coils..

I like it.. :shock: